tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post1436086943712245030..comments2024-03-27T00:32:29.877-07:00Comments on Photos and Stuff: The Way We Seeamolitorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-55086202697142343922017-11-02T08:07:59.076-07:002017-11-02T08:07:59.076-07:00Maybe there is yet another level where one is stil...Maybe there is yet another level where one is still seeing the subject and being aware of the technique, but finally understanding that the fact that the photo made you feel something beyond a simple eye-gasm or technical puzzle is what it's all about. Perhaps this is what makes looking at some photographs a sublime experience. <br /><br />It's the subtle interplay of subject and technique that will either support the ability to make me feel something, or not. I still see the subject and am aware of the technique, which in the best images works quietly in the background. <br /><br />At least that's how it is for me. I want to be moved, and I hope to move those who look at my work. Mikehttp://www.mikepeters-photography.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-68757127714198814192017-10-13T09:11:40.186-07:002017-10-13T09:11:40.186-07:00Experienced writers actually DO!
The non-writer e...Experienced writers actually DO!<br /><br />The non-writer experiences a book mainly as content, a rollicking good story, a good bunch of information, whatever.<br /><br />The neophyte writer tends to write the "and then this happened" story, basically just a listing of events in the order they happen, leading to a conclusion.<br /><br />Spent some time in workshops and whatnot, and pretty soon the new writer's stories are a maze of flashbacks and descriptive passages and so on.<br /><br />Finally, the experienced writer simply uses the right tools and the right time to make the story compelling, rather than a simple litany of events. Well, ideally. One doesn't really notice the flashbacks as such, one simply grasps some extra context for the "events happening now". One doesn't notice the poetic descriptive passage, one simply feels/sees the scene clearly and deeply.<br /><br />The experienced writer notes the devices in passing, which may or may not improve their experience of the work, but it does make it different and in some senses more thorough. Ideally noticing the tool-marks doesn't actually change the experience much, but it does add a layer.<br /><br />Or to put it another way:<br /><br />the neophyte sees "Moonrise over Hernandez" and says "oh, how pretty"; most serious camera-carriers will notice mainly the way the tones are placed and the compositional elements, and will probably mutter to themselves about how Adams had to intensify the negative because he botched the exposure, etc etc; and finally the true artist and one with the soul of God and with the spirit of the muses within him (that is: Me) says "oh, how pretty" while simultaneously being lightly aware of all that technical stuff.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-11889915040759327702017-10-12T19:00:58.258-07:002017-10-12T19:00:58.258-07:00Eh, I dunno man. To become good, I studied others ...Eh, I dunno man. To become good, I studied others work. Copied and copied and saw what looked nice. Now I just have a bunch of those ideas in my head. <br /><br />I don't really see anything more when I look at a picture of a flower about the flower. Sometimes I have a good giggle because I know the contortion that would've been necessary to prevent shadow.<br /><br />Other than that, my opinion is that post art basics (contrast, big shapes, small shapes, vignette you noob etc.) which take about 20hrs to learn, its a bunch of domain specific skills you pick up by copying or practicing.<br /><br />I don't think that adds anything to your experience of the subject of the photo, the very suggestion is rather bewildering to me. Does the serious writer experience the subject of books in a more full manner than a reader? If that were the case, I'd consider writers as a breed utter failures, because they'd be defeating the purpose of their work.<br /><br />They might especially marvel at a good section of narrative using techniques that are harder to use, but that if anything reduces their experience of the work no?Abhishek Cherathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13831477526772025601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-9994922732710450952017-10-11T15:10:40.517-07:002017-10-11T15:10:40.517-07:00Or as Donovan put it, "First there is a mount...Or as Donovan put it, "First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is"... Took me years to figure out what that was all about... Then it was just a song again ;)<br /><br />MikeMike C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11279776665185060446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-6478134422179748172017-10-11T13:43:10.384-07:002017-10-11T13:43:10.384-07:00Reminds me of that Zen saying: "Before one st...Reminds me of that Zen saying: "Before one studies Zen, mountains are mountains and waters are waters; after a first glimpse into the truth of Zen, mountains are no longer mountains and waters are no longer waters; after enlightenment, mountains are once again mountains and waters once again waters."<br /><br />Best, ThomasThomas Rinkhttp://www.picturesfromthezone.com/noreply@blogger.com