tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post4704176255379951579..comments2024-03-27T00:32:29.877-07:00Comments on Photos and Stuff: Takingamolitorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-87426053551679518632013-02-05T12:52:49.211-08:002013-02-05T12:52:49.211-08:00Good point well made...
Here's a thought for ...Good point well made...<br /><br />Here's a thought for you - what about what the art takes from the artist - all be it rather more voluntarily than bill - by bearing a small out of context part of themselves, distilled into the work the art, the art also misrepresents the artist - perhaps even more true in the case of an abstract work than one that closely resembles reality, so maybe art always needs to take from somewhere<br /><br />Or maybe it's not the art itself, but the way we as people interpret art - we need it to tell us something about someone for the art to have any meaning to us...ralphhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-58682918885422577262013-02-05T06:22:42.773-08:002013-02-05T06:22:42.773-08:00I agree. There is one aspect of this "taking&...I agree. There is one aspect of this "taking" and it is just one of several aspects, that relates the real-seemingness of the resulting image to the degree of taking. An abstract representation of Bill The Homeless Guy takes less away from Bill, in our minds, because we are less likely to conflate the mass of colors (or whatever) with the man. A real-seeming image, on the other hand, we will tend to confuse with the man, in our minds. 10 years from now, are we remembering the image, or the man? With a photograph, we may not be sure, with a good drawing perhaps similar, with an abstract painting we probably still have the two straight.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-30813750511048053842013-02-05T05:54:21.007-08:002013-02-05T05:54:21.007-08:00Does this apply to photography exclusively, or all...Does this apply to photography exclusively, or all art? <br /><br />I'd argue it applies to all art, it's just that taking a photograph is essentially easy. But if I were extreemly tallented, I could walk past the homeless guy in the street, go home and draw him recognisably on paper with a pencil, scan it into my computer and then what's the difference?<br /><br />Art has always done this. In fact, I think originally, art was _intended_ to do just this - to literally capture / take the essesnce of something.<br /><br />Only difference now is that any idiot with a camera phone and 2 seconds to spare can do it too.<br />Ralphhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-25057495894970865802013-01-18T13:08:35.015-08:002013-01-18T13:08:35.015-08:00This is an outstanding point. I have some followup...This is an outstanding point. I have some followup remarks to make about the shadow world we create out of our images, and this comment will most definitely inform them! I think we suck something important out of the real world and shovel it into our shadow world of imagery, where it is forever warped and ugly.<br /><br />The Eiffel tower, Anglina Jolie, the Moon. While not literally themselves diminished by the millions of images taken of them, our relationship with them is as with something diminished, so what's the difference, really?<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-87655195747377631352013-01-18T13:00:14.283-08:002013-01-18T13:00:14.283-08:00When I take your photograph, you lose nothing
But...<i>When I take your photograph, you lose nothing</i><br /><br />But that's not true! You lose an increment of specialness!! Eventually you're not special, at all!!<br /><br />Consider Half Dome. Photographing fucking Half Dome is not special! Tens of thousands of photographers have sucked the specialness out of it. It <i>is no longer possible</i> to take a photo of Half Dome that is not "yet another fucking photo of Half Dome." That special place no longer exists and has been replaced with a postcard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com