tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post2905843218804130304..comments2024-03-27T00:32:29.877-07:00Comments on Photos and Stuff: Art about Artamolitorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-40781004771204510402017-11-08T12:42:01.930-08:002017-11-08T12:42:01.930-08:00So they suck mostly because the work is derivative...So they suck mostly because the work is derivative? I think if your technique is the fine detailed B&W print, and your main subject the natural landscape, it's not that easy to differentiate your work from Ansel Adams. That doesn't mean that within this limited space, the work is a copy. You mentioned Düsseldorf, at least the Bechers students used vastly different techniques and subjects. QT Luonghttp://terragalleria.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-9376478752539755642017-11-08T08:04:35.172-08:002017-11-08T08:04:35.172-08:00Nail on head!!!Nail on head!!!christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05057172033456543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-34904300516208442962017-11-08T06:19:02.575-08:002017-11-08T06:19:02.575-08:00Well, for starters I am using my usual enthusiasti...Well, for starters I am using my usual enthusiastic broad brush.<br /><br />The most obvious name is Fred Picker, who I found to be absolutely insufferable and derivative, and who made a fairly complete career out of his relationship with Adams.<br /><br />But more generally, there are (were, anyways) 1000s or people who had taken some workshop or another and would go on about that, wrapping themselves in the mantle as it were, while producing slavish but lousy copies.<br /><br />We also have this sort of gushing piece:<br /><br />http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/news/local_news/ansel-adams-students-learned-their-lessons-well/article_f0b8bea5-50bd-5370-87d5-9e45c78c0f7c.html<br /><br />in which "disciples" "imbibed wisdom" ugh. I googled "students of Ansel Adams" and that was literally the first thing I clicked on, but it's typical of the glurge that surrounds Adams and his students. Now, it's unfair to be irritated with John Sexton over some reporter's idiotic language,<br />I'm sure John and all the other chaps are (generally) pretty good guys.<br /><br />That said, if we then go pick a name at random from the list given in that article, in this case John Sexton, and go remind ourselves what his work looks like, we wind up with on http://ventanaeditions.stores.yahoo.net/index.html which, while not as bogglingly annoying as the Monterey County Weekly article, is still pretty twee.<br /><br />And the pictures all look like extremely competent Ansel Adams copies. In many cases I can literally identify the picture that this one is a clear derivative of.<br /><br />And so it goes every time.<br /><br />I dare say that if you studied Adams and his students, you'd be able to identify the threads of relationship but also the innovation, the unique identities of the artists, and so on.<br /><br />But it's all buried under the press, the people who took a workshop, and even the Good Students are stuck promoting the things that look most like Adams, because that's what sells.<br /><br />From the outside, therefore, it all looks like name dropping, coattail riding, insufferable press releases, and derivative pictures.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-65742728485123207942017-11-07T22:01:42.761-08:002017-11-07T22:01:42.761-08:00It seems quite a broad judgement, since as far I c...It seems quite a broad judgement, since as far I can see Ansel Adams assistants had quite distinctive trajectories, so I'd be interested if you could you elaborate why the photographers who "studied with Ansel Adams" are "assholes", and what makes them "suck"? QT Luonghttp://www.terragalleria.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-2197337471351592652017-11-03T21:08:34.974-07:002017-11-03T21:08:34.974-07:00"Exploring photography is like exploring Zuri..."Exploring photography is like exploring Zurich. It's already full of people, and the only people who really give much of a shit about it are already there"<br /><br />HAHAHAHAHAHAAbhishek Cherathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13831477526772025601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-82157125032253576642017-11-01T16:33:17.826-07:002017-11-01T16:33:17.826-07:00FYI, I don't even have a blog and the same thi...FYI, I don't even have a blog and the same thing has happened to me on those few occasions when I've a comment featured. JGhttp://audiidudii.aminus3.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-66023022393311399382017-11-01T13:51:14.864-07:002017-11-01T13:51:14.864-07:00I can't imagine that it's because Mike wou...I can't imagine that it's because Mike would like to avoid being associated with my blog ;)<br /><br />No, no, no! I like Mike, and I am sure it's entirely because he correctly recognizes that I don't want to publicize my blog, particularly. We have a pleasant group here and it alarms me when my traffic spikes.<br /><br />So far I have not had to fight off any armies of unwashed idiots, but I feel sure the day will come.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-57352926653756079352017-11-01T13:42:26.414-07:002017-11-01T13:42:26.414-07:00Btw, have you noticed that if you get a "feat...Btw, have you noticed that if you get a "featured comment" on TOP, there's never a link to your site? I mean, <i>really</i>, what is the <i>point</i>?<br /><br />MikeMike C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11279776665185060446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-83378392542410645562017-11-01T13:25:44.269-07:002017-11-01T13:25:44.269-07:00"As an aside, is there some law in Germany th..."As an aside, is there some law in Germany that if you're a crashing bore you have to go live in Düsseldorf?"<br /><br />If you ask the residents of Cologne, then yes.<br /><br />Best, Thomas<br />Thomas Rinkhttp://www.picturesfromthezone.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-3295401770157368882017-11-01T12:35:31.456-07:002017-11-01T12:35:31.456-07:00I think you are confusing that with the German Hea...I think you are confusing that with the German Heavy Metal Band Rammstein's 'RUFF STRUTH' -<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5HAEzEk8QMchristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05057172033456543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-65036891002353395092017-11-01T12:28:21.715-07:002017-11-01T12:28:21.715-07:00:):)christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05057172033456543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-51175871997216951422017-11-01T12:14:29.837-07:002017-11-01T12:14:29.837-07:00Yeah, wow, what the heck is THAT about? I just fig...Yeah, wow, what the heck is THAT about? I just figured out how to actually GET umlauts without just cutting and pasting them from elsewhere, so I guess I got excited about my nëw föünd skïll!<br /><br />I could claim, I guess, that I'm talking about the famed scandanavian death-metal band, Cölberg, and their new song THOMAS RUFF but I doubt anyone would believe me.<br /><br />Will go correct it now ;)<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-57932262083095546182017-11-01T12:04:36.178-07:002017-11-01T12:04:36.178-07:00If you have not, you might enjoy reading:
https:/...If you have not, you might enjoy reading:<br /><br />https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/07/05/the-girl-who-fixed-the-umlaut<br /><br />That is, the umlaut is on Jörg and not Colberg! :)christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05057172033456543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-12551100460074651292017-11-01T10:30:25.928-07:002017-11-01T10:30:25.928-07:00Bang on, Andrew. About Ruff, I mean ...Bang on, Andrew. About Ruff, I mean ...erickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409165571476557979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-25331360021981433482017-11-01T10:17:55.666-07:002017-11-01T10:17:55.666-07:00The churning broth in my belly is the only thing t...The churning broth in my belly is the only thing that animates this wretched body of mine to a semblance of life!amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-8840817004731920732017-11-01T10:01:53.734-07:002017-11-01T10:01:53.734-07:00Mm, dyspeptic! I recommend magnesium trisilicate m...Mm, dyspeptic! I recommend magnesium trisilicate mixture, necked straight from the bottle.<br /><br />MikeMike C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11279776665185060446noreply@blogger.com