tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post7530276511999326550..comments2024-03-27T00:32:29.877-07:00Comments on Photos and Stuff: Remixes, Mashups, and Samplingamolitorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-9624433967928792162020-03-05T06:47:27.648-08:002020-03-05T06:47:27.648-08:00I found that fascinating. Sam Contis can claim aff...I found that fascinating. Sam Contis can claim affinity with Dorothea Lange and everyone credulously cuts and pastes that statement. When Lange claims an affinity with Florence Owens, though, we hint darkly that it's impossible and silly.<br /><br />Lange and Owens were both women, both mothers, for instance, and in a context where we're not trying to do a hatchet job on Lange, that is plenty to paint a picture of affinity.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-5541700204339705752020-03-05T05:58:24.729-08:002020-03-05T05:58:24.729-08:00Jesus motherfucking christ on a bicycle. Now some ...Jesus motherfucking christ on a bicycle. Now some asshat critic(?) is boldly asserting Lange, as a [relatively] rich woman had little in common with her destitute FSA subjects. Duh.David Smithhttp://designartcraft.com/photo/afbp.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-45661043980001672772020-02-20T10:22:15.017-08:002020-02-20T10:22:15.017-08:00When a musician samples another musicians work the...When a musician samples another musicians work they don't have access to the original master recordings which is the only thing that's really equivalent to a negative or a raw file. So, samples are roughly equivalent to grabbing a jpg off someones website or taking a picture of a print.<br /><br />Many musicians who work for record companies don't even own or have legal access to their own master recordings. Many have no say in the mixing or mastering of their own recordings!<br /><br />Did the photographers who worked for newspapers or big magazines like Life typically own their negatives or images? What about today? If you are shooting the Olympics for CNN do you typically own the raws and images?<br /><br />Isn't it common for news services to require that raws be submitted and they do all the editing in house?<br /><br />It's a complicated world.Homo_erectushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631525314830974099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-54731416751352146192020-02-20T08:26:51.815-08:002020-02-20T08:26:51.815-08:00With the caveat that I see no reason to restrict t...With the caveat that I see no reason to restrict things to "a reasonable job" sure!<br /><br />I have to admit I am on the fence about the Contis book. I think the way we're supposed to understand it is equal parts stupid and disingenuous, but that is at least in part because photography lacks the language to talk about these kinds of things.<br /><br />The equivalent happens literally every day in music, and there's no problem. They have a philosophy, languages, and legal structures in place to make sense of the whole thing.<br /><br />Increasingly, I feel like I need to actually look at "Day Sleeper" just to see if the result is any good. All this discussion is independent of whether it's any good or not, near as I can tell.<br /><br />We are, I think, entering an era where there's likely to be a lot more remixing and mashing up. People are getting tired of taking pictures, and to an extent they've "all been taken" anyways. So what's left?<br /><br />Remixes!amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-32544167060604801212020-02-20T08:23:07.838-08:002020-02-20T08:23:07.838-08:00SHIFTERS is awesome, and I rate it 0% likely to ac...SHIFTERS is awesome, and I rate it 0% likely to actually win. The rest... uh, yeah. I have a half-formed piece on this whole deal in mind. Maybe it'll see the light of day, maybe not.<br />amolitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743439184763617516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-72216247071089569822020-02-20T06:52:44.670-08:002020-02-20T06:52:44.670-08:00Can I just add ... does 'photoland' even h...Can I just add ... does 'photoland' even have a sense of humor? Or, I dunno, a scintilla of enthusiasm for <em>anything</em>?<br /><br />I just did a drive-by of the Mack First Book Awards, um, "short list" (like all but one ain't winners, eh?), and what a snorefest.<br /><br />Are these photographers and the jury all depressed or what?David Smithhttp://designartcraft.com/photo/afbp.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-25379833244413926112020-02-20T05:15:25.023-08:002020-02-20T05:15:25.023-08:00I loved every silly minute of "Pride and Prej...I loved every silly minute of "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" the movie. I never read the book, or saw one of its (many?) filmic adaptations, but I feel the zombie thing was an original addition to the main premise of all-dressed-up rich folks sussing out social mores and the dating scene. I mean those bitches were badass.David Smithhttp://designartcraft.com/photo/afbp.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-16311726137402636252020-02-20T00:37:04.852-08:002020-02-20T00:37:04.852-08:00Very interesting perspective.
Could I please raise...Very interesting perspective.<br />Could I please raise another view as devil’s advocate - not sure if it will clarify or confuse the discussion.<br />To continue with the music analogy, one of Ansel Adams’ quotes is his likening of a negative to a score and a photograph to a performance. In music this is accepted. There are regular performances of classical composer’s work, and covers of some songs abound - it seems like almost everyone has had a crack at Cohen’s Hallelujah.<br />So what if someone took one of Ansel Adams negatives and made their own print? Assuming a reasonable job was done, would that really be so bad? To the point of authorship, it would be the artist’s print of an Adams negative - assuming the artist could afford to pay for the rights to access it. Having said that, I’m not so sure the idea would hold up under digital. In theory it could work for a Raw file, maybe a JPEG. But one thing I’ve overlooked until now is the copyright. Could that get messy, and therefore shoot this whole thought down?Not THAT Ross Cameronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-654754338632526091.post-77519247416423413282020-02-19T22:59:40.299-08:002020-02-19T22:59:40.299-08:00A bit off topic but came to mind reading this...I ...A bit off topic but came to mind reading this...I was involved in graphics/lithography in London back in the days of “camera ready” artwork. The general consensus in the trade was that films made from customer’s artwork belonged to “the printer”. Once a customer sued a company (not mine) to demand release of the negatives of a book and the case went to court . The judge ruled that the image belonged to the customer but its vehicle (ie negative) belonged to the lithographer…. who promptly cut all the words out of the negs and sent them to the customer in a bin liner.<br /><br />jonnoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com